“of course those listeners familiar with Shakespeare's Manson and Cleopatra will know this story well”
“They were always killing each other. She knew how to kill herself swiftly with a poison, and the likelihood of it being a snake bite. I think is just impossible. But you know, I think about Cleopatra. Who benefited? Who benefits from her dying? It's the Romans. Because I think the last thing that Octavian wanted was a real life. Cleopatra living in captivity in Rome, because that could have been a superb threat to his total vision that Egypt was excessive and needed to be taken over an”
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